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« on: September 14, 2008, 07:45:42 PM »

that moz was far more aggressive, snappy and cheeky in this series? more drug-dealer stereotyped?

cant blame him for he was new to the charachter and show was new etc
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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2008, 10:45:11 AM »

Agreed, the first series was the smokiest too, but there had to be more to the Moz character than "cocky drug-dealer" for Ideal to get past series 2.
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2008, 11:05:28 AM »

smokiest? never thought there was different amount of stoner scenes in the other series
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2008, 05:26:35 PM »

I guess with these things it takes time to develop and establish the characters, and with only 8 epps per series....  I do like the way Moz has evolved tho.
I don't know if their is a smokiest series.
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2008, 11:08:32 PM »

i duno about smokiest, theres more moz and pc on computer and bongs I think
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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2008, 11:23:07 PM »

Hehe, its true Moz seems to have "mellowed" but he can still pull those smart one-liners and put-downs out of the bag when needed. However, does anyone agree that it mgiht be because many of the others he used to rant at are either appearing less and less (or seem to be - mostly Derrick, Colin and the long-time-missing Depressed Darren) or have become his (possibly soon-to-be ex-) girlfriend.

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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2008, 11:36:16 PM »

hmmm thats right those 3 people are being seen less and less Embarrassed
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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2008, 05:09:10 PM »

Since he got rid of his cat!!

He was uncovering bodyparts in his bin!!

Tonight could be a series 1 night!!
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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2008, 09:24:43 AM »

oh i agree
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2009, 11:34:18 PM »

If you watch the pilot film Graham made, the first episode with Vegas in he plays it very much the same, the development of Moz over the following series as a softer character is blatant.
Initially he was definately more stereotypically a dealer. Note the "Fools Gold" poster, and the decks. I could name countless 90/00 dealers in Lancashire with those items  Wink
Also the "JUST WEED" thing.. Most dope dealers are just that and really dont like hardcore dealers, there are no guns or violence for the average dope seller.

Most of this is based on Grahams interview on the Dvd where he mentions basing Moz on "several" real life people as a conglomeration sort of thing. IIRC.
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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2009, 05:37:58 AM »

moz is just a normal guy ,likes his weed..sells a bit ,cause his bent copper mate getn it for him ..so why not...lol ...the show is exellent...
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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2009, 09:45:01 AM »

the rat scene with chyna makes me laugh everytime i see it

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« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2009, 08:53:16 PM »

I Fear Nout Me.....Dont Glass Them Glass Yourself lol

LMAO I'd forgotten about that line! Fantastic!
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« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2009, 07:45:59 PM »

that moz was far more aggressive, snappy and cheeky in this series? more drug-dealer stereotyped?

cant blame him for he was new to the charachter and show was new etc
Well, what I think was that he was too kind for a dealer. I mean just because a teen girl comes and lets him touch her ass and she gets free hash, that would never work here. Maybe the dealers here are gay?
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« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2009, 08:33:25 PM »

100 Kroner a gram is why, at a guess.
Like they say, don't take drugs, pay your dealer the going rate, show some respect and everyone's happy.
I think you need someone special like China, for that situation, in all honesty.
I think in the UK it's generally the nasty drugs that get paid for with sex (crack & smack). Oh, and taxi rides if those '70s British sex comedies (and taxi drivers) are to be believed.
It's almost a cliched, comedy sterotype in the UK (and US), that dope dealers like their customers to 'hang-out', to avoid any obvious traffic to where they live (just in case the babylon are watching). This means they are often genial hosts (or prepared to fake it). In these days of mobile phones, it is less plausible to say to that you just nipped around to ask a question, too. Moz is characteristically, openly contemptuous of his customers, I don't know whether this really lessened through the series, or whether the affront is just lessened when we know which of people that he insults he likes, and which he doesn't. He may be a bit less gobby because it has often backfired on him.
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